Running it dry only serves to accelerate wear. A drop of oil on the locking block goes a long way to prevent failures of this part. However, Beretta identified an area of improvement. The blocks were failing at a point where there was a right angle. Any engineer will tell you that right angles are prone to failure.
Beretta used a radius cut and eliminated the right angle, and now the locking blocks will likely work for the entire service life of the pistol. In other words, you're not likely to wear one out. The early problems encountered with the M9 are typical of any new service weapon entering military service.
Few weapons are subjected to the rigors of military service, and those rigors are very challenging for any tool. Within a couple of years the M9 became an outstanding service pistol. But there were other problems down the road.
One such problem was the sudden reappearance of failing locking blocks. The Army went to Beretta with a handful of broken parts and asked them why they were failing. Beretta took one look and said, " These weren't made by us. Once the no-name parts were replaced with actual Beretta parts, the problem went away. Then there were reports of serous reliability problems coming from Iraq and Afghanistan.
The Army and Beretta dove in to see what the problem was and once again it was a problem with parts. The Army initially contracted with the world famous magazine maker Mec-Gar for their M9 magazines, but as time went on it was decided they were too expensive so a lower cost alternative was sought out. Check-mate was the first low-bid company who supplied magazines and of course they were problematic.
The Army thought they were too expensive still so they put the magazines out for bid once again. A new lowest bidder, Airtronic Services, won the contract based on their lowball offer and they too had reliability issues.
After more research it was decided that the heavy phosphate finished required by the Army's specifications was causing the reliability issues.
I mean, it stands to reason a course finish like heavy phosphate that has a surface texture of a fine grit sandpaper might cause reliability issues, especially if they are kept dry and moon dust is introduced. While all this "lowest bidder" shenanigans was going on, troops in the field were having very real problems with their M9's not working properly. This is how Uncle Sugar gets our troops killed In the end a new "high reliability" magazine was proposed that used a slick PVD finish and the M9 reliability issues evaporated.
Lastly, the M9 got trashed talked because of armorers who didn't do their jobs and properly service the high round count pistols. Granted, in time of war parts can be in short supply and it's not always something the armorers can remedy. However, if a weapon is known to be problematic, it needs to be taken out of service if new parts can't be secured. Many times worn out guns were pressed into service and this only compounded the reputation the M9 was a bad service pistol.
In the end you'll find that most people who know the M9 and use a properly maintained pistol will tell you the M9 has been a fantastic military service weapon and retiring it after only 35 years of service was an incredibly stupid idea by the U. I've come into some privileged information from active duty Soldiers who are armorers regarding the M The reason Sig took back the early M17's and sold them to the civilian market is because there were over 12 changes made to the guns to resolve issues with the gun.
The early M17's were given back to Sig because it was cheaper to get new guns than it was to retrofit the early M17's with all of the new changes necessary to resolve the known issues. I've heard for more than one active duty armorer that the new M17's have a number of problems including trigger bars that are bending at low round counts which causes the trigger not to reset. I'm not trashing the M Just like the M9 had its teething problems I don't know of any M17's chipping a shooters teeth the M17 is destine to have it's own.
Hopefully the M17 will evolve to be a rock solid sidearm for our forces. However, I believe the M9 should not have been replaced. The M17 shouldn't exist. It was a MASSIVE waste of our tax dollars to reequip all branches of our military with a handgun that's no better than the gun it replaced.
After 20 years of war, is it really a good use of our tax dollars to replace a weapon that is not a front line weapon? Keep in mind our front line forces fight with rifles, not handguns.
It is a very accurate shooting pistol, and it never, ever malfunctions. I fire this weapon on a weekly basis at the range and it is an absolute joy. All companies should put this kind of effort into the quality of their pistols.
With all the complaints that I see on the internet now of people saying the should have never been retired, I can only imagine when the M9 is replaced, how many people will miss this gun.
I know I will. As a vietnam vet,11bravo, I still have my. Instead of asking the army if they can make some modifications they really should just make those modifications. I wont even consider it for purchase. In order to ensure a shooters proficiency for such a large number of people, adjustable grip sizes is essential! One army reason is the average soldier shot tighter groups with other pistols in one informal test. The M9 is a great gun, but its just too big. And one very important move, test it, then market it to the commercial market, then wait for the beuracracy to fail any competition.
They will come running! The average dog face solder does not receive the training they need ,ie,combat,for mission. I started my career in the general purpose forces and moved on to the more specialized communities later. I know first hand that the reason non-sof soldiers complain about the M9 is because most of them cannot shoot. I have seen guys shoot a terrible qual and look at their M9 and get mad at the gun.
More than once I have taken their gun from them and shot a perfect The M9 is an outstanding shooter and I have only seen one or two malfunctions when guys left their magazines filled to capacity for an entire deployment.
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