Asked 8 years, 3 months ago. Active 2 years, 11 months ago. Viewed k times. Improve this question. Liath Liath Add a comment. Active Oldest Votes. Improve this answer. Sayan Sayan I think it's important to remember that for many, The Night's Watch is perceived as a punishment; not a duty. Halfhand is obviously aware that Mance Rayder a former Crow knows this aswell, and as such stages a scenario where it appears Jon Snow is mutinous, because he doesn't want to be a Crow and has no Loyalty to them.
However, I will add some further clarification from the books: [ A Clash of Kings spoilers ahead] In the previous scenes, the wildlings are on Jon and Qhorin's tracks in the Skirling Pass.
Community Bot 1. Qhorin warns that the wildlings have become more organized and dangerous under the leadership of former ranger Mance Rayder the King Beyond the Wall.
With a small party, Qhorin intends to approach and eliminate a wildling watchpost. Jon Snow Kit Harington volunteers to join Qhorin, which he is eventually allowed to do. The Prince of Winterfell. Among the added material there are the relationship between Talisa and Robb which in the books happen offscreen and in an entirely different context and the Qarth plot which is still only loosely based on the books.
A Storm of Swords. The Watch are attacked by undead wights and the Others, suffering heavy casualties; but Samwell Tarly kills one of the Others with a blade of dragonglass. Some of the Watch mutiny and kill Mormont, but Sam escapes with the help of one of Craster's daughter-wives, Gilly, and they and the girl's newborn child approach the Wall, assisted by a strange figure riding an elk, whom Sam calls Coldhands.
The reason for that is that Jon doesn't really want to kill Qhorin. Qhorin was a good man, but he's not the best man. He's a sadist. He likes to watch people suffer, and he likes to watch them suffer and then kill them. It's not a fake fight, he just kills him. He has to kill him because he's a traitor. It's a horrible thing to do to a man, and he's a good man.
His personality differs quite a bit from the books in the TV series in that while he is still a rather calm person, he is shown to be more gruff and shows a disdain for southerners. Unlike his counterpart in the books, he sports a mustache and a goatee. Qhorin's story is significantly different than in the TV series: first, his reason for sending the scout parties was to find out what was the secret power that Mance Rayder was looking for in the Frostfangs.
Second, Qhorin never ordered Jon to kill Ygritte : he told him "you must do what needs be done". After Jon let Ygritte go and returned to the others, Qhorin explained Jon it was not bad choice to spare her life. If he wanted to kill her, he'd do it himself, or order Ebben to do that. He left Ygritte's fate for Jon to decide in order to know him better. Third, when they were chased by the wildlings and had no hope of survival, Qhorin specifically ordered Jon to yield: "If we are taken, you will go over to them, as the wildling girl you captured once urged you.
They may demand that you cut your cloak to ribbons, that you swear them an oath on your father's grave, that you curse your brothers and your Lord Commander. You must not balk, whatever is asked of you. Do as they bid you Ride with them, eat with them, fight with them, for as long as it takes". Qhorin also ordered Jon to find out what was the secret power that the wildlings sought.
Once they were surrounded, Qhorin deliberately picked a fight with Jon, and let Jon kill him. The ploy worked well, and the wildlings were convinced that Jon truly turned his cloak. Game of Thrones Wiki. Game of Thrones Wiki Explore. Game of Thrones. House of the Dragon. Peterson - linguist. Patel - director. Vhagar Caraxes Syrax Meleys Sunfyre. Explore Wikis Community Central. Register Don't have an account? View source.
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